Sorry that this blog is coming a little later than usual. Because of the Pig Hurricane and decisions made by the UIL, I have been swamped this week. I mean, I probably had a morning or two when I could have got cranking at 8'oclock but I can barely carry out necessary motor skills before 12 p.m., so that was really out of the question.
But like I said, I've been swamped and will be that way for at least the rest of this week. Basically, I'm going to hand the blog over to you guys and let yall run with it.
Up for debate:
Game 6 between LA and Houston: A story of good and evil?
Whose better: LeBron or Kobe: A story of good and evil?
After Lakers beat the Rockets, who wins out of LA and Denver: A story of good and evil?
***Will Kobe have relations with a hotel bell girl in Denver: A story of good and evil?
***Should girl victim that Kobe allegedly (and probably) raped (only I didn't believe that until this series with Houston when he raped the Rockets in at least three games) sing the National Anthem at one of Denver's first home game in Western Finals: A story of good and evil?
Do you think former President Bush ever supplied ARod (when with the Rangers) with steroids or had the government steal opposing team's pitching signals?
AND... Astros talk is always acceptable, especially if it includes bashing management.
***These are questions from readers and or their friends. Thanks for being ridiculous.
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The Pig Hurricane which you speak of is just a government hoax to distract everyone from a different issue. I haven't found which issue that is yet but my hunch is the vanishing of a whole country.
ReplyDeleteOn a lighter note. Houston better win game 6. Just force a game 7 and anything can happen. I would love to see Kobe blow another series. More than that I would love to see him blow another series in which he played really bad in game 7. Either way Denver is going to give any team fits. Props to Billups for making his 7th STRAIGHT conference finals. He proves how important a leader is and how great of a leader he is. I personally would like to see a Denver-Cleveland final.
WOW! Rockets win again. I never saw it coming. I don't know if they have it in them to win two in a row but I'm down with Kobe losing. He's one of those great talents I gladly root against, like ARod.
ReplyDeleteI guess we are all in agreement that LeBron is leaps and bounds better than Kobe?
This is from Jebby in previous blog.
ReplyDeleteI cannot believe what I am reading. VY has no NFL potential. He will never be a successful qb or running QB like Vick was because he is no where the athlete. This is the NFL he isn't playing in the Big 12 where defense doesn't seem to matter just as long as you can out score your opponent. He clearly isn't head strong. And I was reading up on his "big game ability" and he was like 5 - 12 against teams with winning records in the NFL. The Titans win despite VY not because of him. He barely ran a 4.6 at the combine he definitely isn't running that now.
I have to argue this. I'm not saying Vince will be the greatest quarterback ever but I don't understand why professional teams take a guy with so much ability and then cut his legs out from under him. If doesn't take snaps from under center in college, if he is basically a modern option quarterback in college, what on earth makes NFL teams think they can change him. Vince had three years to go from an option QB to an NFL QB — that really isn't fair. And in terms of yardage and touchdowns, he produced just as much as Collins did this season. The difference is that Collins didn't have the interceptions. It only took him a decade to figure out how to read defenses correctly. Why can't VY get a learning curve. And 4.6 speed is a whole lot faster than Collins and a lot of other quarterbacks.
ReplyDeleteCan you not imagine what the Titans could do if they implemented some option stuff for Young with their two current backs. They would have won the super bowl last year. If Young learned to rely on defense and just take what you can get on offense, with that philosophy, he would get you a lot more on offense than Collins could in three games. Tennessee is wasting VY. You're crazy to write him off. No one is saying VY can be Joe Montana or Dan Marino but we're saying he can be very productive in his own right if given the keys to the right car.
I think we are in agreement that LeBron is leaps and bounds ahead of Kobe in athletic ability. LeBron definitely has that killer instinct to him now. Sometimes I feel like Kobe turns his game on and off, where as LeBron's is always on. Jordans fire was always on. They may have bad games but that wasn't because they didn't compete. Recently it has seemed like Kobe hasn't played with urgency. I want the selfish Kobe back. The Kobe that is going to just step on your throat early and keep going.
ReplyDeleteCollins isn't a scrambling qb. So of course Young is faster. VY barely ran a 4.6 3 years ago. Your right, the Titans are dumb for thinking that they could change him into a passing qb. There is a reason why he isn't running in the NFL, one it clearly isn't as easy as college. Secondly he isn't fast enough to outrun any of these cbs. Vick was an amazing exception with his 4.3 speed and elusiveness. Young will never be that guy. Defenses have figured out that he isn't going to beat you with his arm. So that takes away from him picking up those 10 - 15 yard scrambles. Playing from behind with VY is a problem because of his decision making. And I remember when he went out last year there was a stat out comparing his 3rd down passing efficiency and it wasn't very good. I mean the guy did score a 6 on his wonderlic. Warning signs anyone?
Well the average quarterback score on the wonderlic is 24 and six goes into 24 four times and if you multiply that number by 10, VY's jersey number, you get a much bigger number..... who cares about a wonderlic test. It's football for crying out loud.
ReplyDeleteI really loved that last analogy. I need more of that in these blogs.
ReplyDeleteLook at these scores and tell me they don't matter.
Warner??
Dilfer 22
Brady 33
Roethlisberger 25
Manning 28
Eli 39
Aikman 29
Elway 29
Rivers 30
Brees 28
Rodgers 35
Romo 37
Garcia 30
Matt Ryan 32
Cutler 26
Mcnabb 14 (best with a bad score)
Favre 22
Flacco 30
Not every qb who scores high is going to be successful and you shouldn't draft on this aspect alone. Just the same for RBs who run a fast 40 time it doesn't make them great. But the most successful quarterbacks often have the highest score.
As you've pointed out, there are a bunch of guys on that list who everyone knew was going to be very good quarterbacks way before any stupid test.
ReplyDeleteThere are some exceptions like Romo who did really well on the test and is a very very overrated quarterback. I wish we knew Warner's wonderlic score, especially his wonderlic score for life because he was bagging wonderbread and other groceries for a living beforehand. And I like how you only give scores to recent success stories. Here is my list:
Bruce Eugene of Grambling State: 41 (Way to go kid maybe you can turn your Market Basket job into a great career as well.
Alex Smith: 40
Matt Lienart: 35
Brad Smith: 24
Brodie Croyle: 24
Dustin Long: 27
Dan Orvlosky: 26 (Really smart guy. He ran out of the endzone Jebby)
Drew Henson: 42
Rex Grossman: 29
Kyle Boller: 27
Ken Dorsey: 25
Chris Sims: 22
Joey Harrington: 32
David Carr: 24
Quincy Carter: 30
Josh Heupel: 30
David Gerrard: 14 (doing pretty well and he has chrones disease)
Danny Wuerffel: 25
Steve McNair: 15 (not too shabby for an obvious idiot and I am assuming he is an idiot since he failed the wonderlic test)
DAN MARINO: 15 (should have passed on that moron)
JIM KELLEY: 15 (whoops)
TERRY BRADSHAW: 15
Rick Mirer: 36
Here is what I learned in my statistics class: you can present whatever statistics you want to make your own argument work for you. You won round one but I dominated round two.
Haha... I clearly stated that not everyone who scores well on the test does well. But most of those guys are still better than Young.
ReplyDeleteHowever, you have many more high test score failures than you do low scorers who succeed. That means that your percentage of guys who will succeed are far less if they didn't produce an average score. I learned that in statistics. And say what you want about Romo he is a much better quarterback than VY. I say that because me and you agree on Romo.
Let me rephrase that "you have many more high test scorers that succeed and you do low scorers who succeed."
ReplyDeleteEither way, I think my point is made that the test matters very little. And I just don't think it's fair to rule out VY without ever seeing him in an offense that fits his game.
ReplyDeleteI believe it matters more than you think. It is a decision making test. How quick you can respond. Had it mattered very little you wouldn't have heard all these things about VY's score when it came out.
ReplyDeleteOn the SAT, I scored higher on the math than I did the English and writing sections and did that without a calculator. Yet, I became a writer, and I hate math. Based on your opinions of what a test prognosticates about a person, regardless of that person's test taking skills, I'm thinking I should have become a US Marshal, a janitor, a WWII general, a track star, or a heart surgeon. Your thoughts?
ReplyDeleteThe SAT isn't a test designed to tell you which direction to go in search of a career. Or even what you would be best at in life. Just as the wonderlic is not a test designed to predict which position would be best for you. And again I never said that wonderlic was a basis of who to draft or how good someone would be. I am saying that it has some value to it. If you score poorly on the wonderlic the possibility of being good or bad is still 50 50. It just seems generally they don't pan out. If someone does poorly on the SAT (generally speaking) the possibility of them being successful (outside of sports) is probably pretty low. And I am not talking a little below average score.
ReplyDeleteI see your point. I have seen it. I know you have a point and I understand it is logical but I don't agree with it. I'll admit there is probably some percentage of value that can be gained from giving the test. However, I think the test is mostly overrated. And I most certainly feel the media and the general public should not be given knowledge of how players score on the test. It's one thing to give someone's 40 time or vertical leap but it's another to tell us their IQ. That is crossing a libel line to me.
ReplyDeleteFurthermore, I think the Wonderlic has become a fad or a gimmick used to direct more attention to the NFL offseason and it's another story angle for the media. I promise you when it comes to the highest profile athletes in the draft, any given particular year, GM's are not thinking about the Wonderlic. The media would have you believe they are because the media is after fresh angles. Eventually, the wonderlic will lose its appeal. I think it probably holds some value in the middle rounds when it comes down to Joe Smith and Jon Doe, but not before. Mario Williams didn't jump on Houston's wonderlic radar.
The Texans said, "Hey, we've already drafted a quarterback who is a total bust. We've exhausted efforts on an injury prone running back. Maybe we've got our strategy all wrong? Maybe we have to build a defense and offensive line first? Maybe the last piece of the puzzle is the skill position guys? Excluding offensive skill positions, where do we suck the most," asks a random Texan decision maker?
"Well sir, we could use some drastic help at defensive line."
"Who is out there?"
"Mario Williams. He's big, fast, good college resume. Kiper says he's good."
And this goes for quarterbacks too. Matt Ryan is 6-5 with a big arm. Ryan was the unanimous choice for quarterbacks in the 2008 draft. He was the cream of the crop way before the combines. And after him, it was a toss up, which is why the Delaware guy was able to build steam so easy. By the way, he's huge with a big arm too. An oral exam can't test size and strength. Or maybe it can?
"Mr. Ryan, are you big?"
"Yes sir."
"Are you fast?"
"Not really sir."
"Can you throw far?"
"Yes sir."
"A+, Well done young man."
Haha I am glad you just see my point that is all I ask. Ryan scored a 32 on the wonderlic. (sorry that was me being a smart a.
ReplyDeleteBy the way Kyle Boller is big and has a big arm.